The Krishnamurti Collection

81 • Brockwood Park & Gstaad 1975 (5/12) • Conversation with David Bohm 5: Attention Implies That There Is No Centre

Krishnamurti: Truth, Actuality, and the Limits of ThoughtBrockwood Park and Gstaad 1975, Conversations with David Bohm5/12: Attention Implies That There Is No Centre
Consciousness, because it is in constant movement, has never found an energy which is not contradictory, which is not produced by desire and thought.
Can thought ever see its own movement and the futility of its own movement?
Attention implies that there is no centre.
Is there a perception, a seeing outside the space which is part of consciousness?
There are two human beings, one gets conditioned and the other doesn’t. Why? How has it happened the other doesn’t get conditioned?
How does this perception which is beyond attention, beyond awareness, beyond concentration come about?
Thought is rather superficial, it’s merely a very small part of the operation of the brain.
Can consciousness be completely empty of its content?
Order and disorder
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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82 • Brockwood Park & Gstaad 1975 (6/12) • Conversation with David Bohm 6: Perceiving Without the Perceiver

Krishnamurti: Truth, Actuality, and the Limits of ThoughtBrockwood Park and Gstaad 1975, Conversations with David Bohm6/12: Perceiving Without the Perceiver
Can thought naturally cease?
Perceiving without the perceiver
Facing the truth of death
Krishnamurti’s ‘process’ and early years.
Kundalini
If you can understand suffering, face it and not escape from it, that has quite a different energy.
Truth is a pathless land.
There is something really tremendously mysterious.
Knowledge is becoming the curse.
When the mind, with all the confusion, is nothing, not a thing, then perhaps there is the other.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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83 • Brockwood Park & Gstaad 1975 (7/12) • Conversation with David Bohm 7: If Thought Cannot Achieve, Why Should It Suffer?

Krishnamurti: Truth, Actuality, and the Limits of ThoughtBrockwood Park and Gstaad 1975, Conversations with David Bohm7/12: If Thought Cannot Achieve, Why Should It Suffer?
How does science investigate the mysterious?
If thought cannot achieve, why should it suffer?
Can consciousness, which is filled with the things of thought, empty itself?
Thought cannot possibly apprehend, comprehend or be aware of the whole.
Time.
Krishnamurti’s early years.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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84 • Brockwood Park & Gstaad 1975 (8/12) • Conversation with David Bohm 8: What Is the Substance of Thought?

Krishnamurti: Truth, Actuality, and the Limits of ThoughtBrockwood Park and Gstaad 1975, Conversations with David Bohm8/12: What Is the Substance of Thought?
What is the basic reason for thought to be fragmented?
What is the substance of thought? Is it a material process, a chemical process?
There is a total perception, which is truth. That perception acts in the field of reality. That action is not the product of thought.
Thought has no place when there is total perception.
Thought never acknowledges to itself that it is mechanical.
Total perception can only exist when the centre is not.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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85 • Brockwood Park & Gstaad 1975 (9/12) • Conversation with David Bohm 9: Is There in the Brain Anything Untouched by Culture?

Krishnamurti: Truth, Actuality, and the Limits of ThoughtBrockwood Park and Gstaad 1975, Conversations with David Bohm9/12: Is There in the Brain Anything Untouched by Culture?
Can there be a total perception which completely heals the brain?
What benefit has culture?
Does speech come before thought?
Is it possible to say something without the operation of thought?
Is there in the brain anything untouched by culture?
Is attention a conscious process?
Is love the factor of profound change?
You explain all this, and you say that whatever the damaged brain – which is the result of thought and tradition and all the rest of it – whatever it does will produce further damage. So, because you point it out, I realise that. That is the first necessity – I realise it. Then, after I’ve realised it, you talk to me at a depth which thought has not touched. You planted a seed.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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86 • Brockwood Park & Gstaad 1975 (10/12) • Conversation with David Bohm 10: Truth Does Not Belong to an Individual

Krishnamurti: Truth, Actuality, and the Limits of ThoughtBrockwood Park and Gstaad 1975, Conversations with David Bohm10/12: Truth Does Not Belong to an Individual
Krishnamurti’s ‘process’ and his early years.
Suffering.
The Indian tradition says that there is a manifestation of goodness which happens very rarely.
Truth does not belong to an individual. What one says is truth. But it becomes truth to me only when I have washed away my selfishness.
To stay with – not the word, not the description, not the person – but to stay with that penetrating truth.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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87 • Brockwood Park & Gstaad 1975 (11/12) • Conversation with David Bohm 11: What Is Wisdom Which Is Not a Movement of Thought?

Krishnamurti: Truth, Actuality, and the Limits of ThoughtBrockwood Park and Gstaad 1975, Conversations with David Bohm11/12: What Is Wisdom Which Is Not a Movement of Thought?
Wisdom, intelligence and truth.
If there is attention is there choice?
Why has man divided perception?
What is wisdom which is not the movement of thought?
What place has the man who perceives truth in this world of reality?
Truth operating in one brain clears that brain.
Mustn’t there be emptiness for the perception of truth?
Consciousness.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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88 • Brockwood Park & Gstaad 1975 (12/12) • Conversation with David Bohm 12: Can the Brain Free Itself From All Self-Delusion?

Krishnamurti: Truth, Actuality, and the Limits of ThoughtBrockwood Park and Gstaad 1975, Conversations with David Bohm12/12: Can the Brain Free Itself From All Self-Delusion?
Thought and the brain.
Can the brain free itself from all self-delusion?
Why has the self become important?
Can there be only sensation, thought, and no desire?
Can desire - which brings illusion, self-deception and all the complications of changing desires – can the root of desire be dissipated?
What prevents one from having a real insight? That is, seeing the truth of desire and therefore end it. Is it that we have never asked this question?
When there is no desire whatsoever then there is a total revolution, and that will affect the consciousness of man.
Is there a movement, an action that keeps the brain pure, uncontaminated?
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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89 • Gstaad 1965 (1/6) • Small Group Discussion 1: Is Thought Detrimental?

Krishnamurti: Thought, Stillness and TimeGstaad 1965, Small Group Discussions1/6: Is Thought Detrimental?
Why does one seek pleasure?
Can the mind only face facts and not thought?
Why have I never said, ‘Thought is poison,’ to myself?
Meeting something one doesn’t know, facing something which has no answer.
Acting without knowing.
What is a state of mind which is silent?
Time is detrimental.
Are we twisting everything to our core of pleasure?
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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90 • Gstaad 1965 (2/6) • Small Group Discussion 2: Am I Aware of the Process of Thinking?

Krishnamurti: Thought, Stillness and TimeGstaad 1965, Small Group Discussions2/6: Am I Aware of the Process of Thinking?
Can I see that thought is destructive, except where it is essential?
Why is it that we don’t see something immediately?
Do you know when you are thinking?
Is the thing that we call thinking, thinking at all?
Do you think from the background noise when a problem arises?
When the mind becomes totally aware of the background, is there thinking when a problem arises?
What happens when I am aware of this hum, this noise incessantly going on?
Is the background noise different from the observer?
How am I to live an everyday life with complete silence?
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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