The Krishnamurti Collection

111 • Madras 1981/82 (6/8) • Talk 4: Fear, Pleasure and Suffering Are One Unitary Movement

Krishnamurti: When You Observe ‘What Is’, There Is No ConflictMadras 1981/82, Public Meetings6/8: Fear, Pleasure and Suffering Are One Unitary Movement
Because we do not understand beauty we have no love in our heart.
Where there is intelligence there is right action born out of compassion; and beauty is that compassion.
Is pleasure the other side of fear?
Can beauty exist where there is greed, envy, anxiety, agony? Beauty is when the other is not.
When you are angry, that anger is you, not something away from you.
Can I observe suffering without the word, without escape, without trying to seek comfort?
It is only a mind that is free from sorrow, totally, that can know what love is.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
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112 • Madras 1981/82 (7/8) • Talk 5: Can One Live a Totally Integrated Life?

Krishnamurti: When You Observe ‘What Is’, There Is No ConflictMadras 1981/82, Public Meetings7/8: Can One Live a Totally Integrated Life?
Integrity means innocence, a mind that has not been touched by corruption.
As human beings living in this neurotic world where there is so much corruption and disorder, can we live a totally integrated life?
Can this movement, the outer and the inner, ever stop? What takes place when it does stop?
What is the nature of love? You cannot cultivate love.
What is the ‘I’, the ‘me’, that I cling to? Is it my sorrow, my anxiety, my confusion, my talent, capacity, pain, wounds, agony?
If you are ending every day, you are living with that enormous thing called death. So there is incarnation, not reincarnation. There is incarnation each day when you are ending each day.
When one understands death, one is living, there is something totally new taking place each day.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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113 • Madras 1981/82 (8/8) • Talk 6: In Meditation There Is No Becoming nor Being

Krishnamurti: When You Observe ‘What Is’, There Is No ConflictMadras 1981/82, Public Meetings8/8: In Meditation There Is No Becoming nor Being
Is it possible to bring complete order without any compulsion, without any pressure, without reward and punishment acting?
Is there an intelligence which is not born of thought?
What is a religious mind?
Purity is not so great as innocency. ‘Innocent’ means a mind that is not capable of being hurt.
Is meditation something apart from daily living?
Can we be free of all systems and practice?
When I say to myself, ‘I must control my thoughts,’ who is the controller?
In meditation there is no controller, which means there is no conflict.
When there is order the whole brain becomes astonishingly quiet.
Silence can only be when there is space.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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114 • Malibu 1971/72 (1/7) • Conversation with Alain Naudé 1: The Circus of Man’s Struggle

Krishnamurti: A Religious Life Is a Life in Which the Self Is NotMalibu 1971/72, Conversations with Alain Naudé1/7: The Circus of Man’s Struggle
Why do we divide the world, the human being and the divine?
When I realise that my consciousness is the consciousness of the world, and the consciousness of the world is me, whatever change takes place in me affects the whole of consciousness.
Can human consciousness undergo a radical change?
To find out if there is something beyond this consciousness I must understand the content of consciousness. The mind must go beyond itself.
Do we realise that the observer, seeing the content, examining, analysing, looking at it all, is the content itself?
If there is no thought, there is no thinker.
If the observer is the observed, what is the nature of change in consciousness?
Man has become accustomed to take it for granted that will is the only way to bring about change, but will is not the factor of change.
Consciousness only exists when there is conflict between fragments.
Radical revolution in consciousness and of consciousness takes place when there is no conflict at all.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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115 • Malibu 1971/72 (2/7) • Conversation with Alain Naudé 2: On Good and Evil

Krishnamurti: A Religious Life Is a Life in Which the Self Is NotMalibu 1971/72, Conversations with Alain Naudé2/7: On Good and Evil
Q: Do good and evil really exist or are they simply conditioned points of view?
Goodness is total order, not only outwardly but inwardly especially.
Is virtue the outcome of planning?
You cannot will to do good. Either you are good or not good; you cannot will goodness.
Will is the concentration of thought as resistance.
Are poisonous snakes, sharks and the appalling, frighteningly cruel things in nature evil?
The moment we assert that there is absolute evil, that very assertion is the denial of the good.
Goodness implies total abnegation of the self, because ‘the me’ is always separative.
Order means behaviour in freedom. Freedom means love, not pleasure. When one observes all this, one sees very clearly that there is a marvellous sense of absolute order.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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116 • Malibu 1971/72 (3/7) • Conversation with Alain Naudé 3: Is There a Permanent Ego?

Krishnamurti: A Religious Life Is a Life in Which the Self Is NotMalibu 1971/72, Conversations with Alain Naudé3/7: Is There a Permanent Ego?
Is there a permanent ‘me’?
Unless I am free from the vulgar, I will continue representing the whole vulgarity of man.
I lead the usual life, along the small river, following that current. I am that current and ‘the me’ is bound to continue in that stream, with millions of others. I’m not different from those millions of others.
When you say, ‘My brother is dead,’ and ask whether he is living, as a separate consciousness, I question whether he was ever separate from the stream.
There is no permanent self. If there was a permanent self, it would be this stream.
Realising that I am like the rest of the world, that there is no ‘me’ separate, I can incarnate if I step out of the stream.
Change takes place away from the stream; in the stream there is no change.
What happens if you step out of the stream? The stepping out is the incarnation.
When the man of the stream steps out and looks, he has compassion.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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117 • Malibu 1971/72 (4/7) • Conversation with Alain Naudé 4: Masters and Hierarchy

Krishnamurti: A Religious Life Is a Life in Which the Self Is NotMalibu 1971/72, Conversations with Alain Naudé4/7: Masters and Hierarchy
Q: One finds in various teachings the idea of masters, conscious entities who work for the good of mankind. Is there a reservoir of wisdom? Do such entities exist, or does man want to have myths?
There is the reservoir of goodness and the reservoir of violence. Is there something which is not these two, that is beyond these two?
Is your mind capable of not being held in the reservoirs of goodness or violence?
When you understand these two opposites and go beyond them, meditation is not in terms of vision or action, but the state of silence which then is operating, an energy which then flows. That energy has no character.
When one asks, ‘Is there a hierarchy, a master, a group of evolved entities?’ you are asking from a point of view, or from desire, from hope.
What is the relationship between the current of vulgarity and that which is beyond and above the opposites?
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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118 • Malibu 1971/72 (5/7) • Conversation with Alain Naudé 5: Stepping Out of the Stream of the Self

Krishnamurti: A Religious Life Is a Life in Which the Self Is NotMalibu 1971/72, Conversations with Alain Naudé5/7: Stepping Out of the Stream of the Self
Is there in me a place where there is no corruption, where there is real, absolute peace, order?
The stream of vulgarity has its source in the self, ‘the me’, the ego.
When there is no self, there is a responsibility for humanity.
What is the relationship between this stream, the self which is perpetuating the stream, and the unknown?
How is a man who is in the stream to understand instantly, without going through the evolutionary process?
You step out of the stream if you deny time, in the sense of becoming, being, achieving, comparing.
Can the mind, without any motive, negate the self?
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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119 • Malibu 1971/72 (6/7) • Conversation with Alain Naudé 6: A Mind That Is Not Empty Can Never Find Truth

Krishnamurti: A Religious Life Is a Life in Which the Self Is NotMalibu 1971/72, Conversations with Alain Naudé6/7: A Mind That Is Not Empty Can Never Find Truth
Q: Are the various scriptures of India and the Middle East similar to or in contradiction to your teaching?
Can thought end right through one’s consciousness? Must thought not end for something new to be observed?
How does the mind look at itself? Does it look as an observer different from the observed, or without the observer and therefore there is only the observed?
Can consciousness empty itself of its content?
What has happened to the mind that has discarded the weight of becoming, of tradition, myth, gurus and authority?
A mind that has no space can never find truth. A mind that is not empty can never find truth.
Remaining with the fact of hurt.
When you are nothing, you love.
There is a movement in silence that has no beginning and no end, a movement that is always new.
Inquiry is different from effort, from seeking, from achievement.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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120 • Malibu 1971/72 (7/7) • Conversation with Alain Naudé 7: Religion and Meditation

Krishnamurti: A Religious Life Is a Life in Which the Self Is NotMalibu 1971/72, Conversations with Alain Naudé7/7: Religion and Meditation
Q: Is there any connection between the supernatural and religion?
Is a religious life to lead a good life?
A religious life is a life in which the self is not.
We get caught in the so-called mysterious. But when the self is not, there is a greater, vaster mystery.
Self-knowing is much more important than acquiring some kind of power.
What place has meditation in religious life?
Meditation is not control, is not a practice, is not an effort to achieve a glorious experience, or to remain in a particular state of consciousness.
If the self is, the religious life is not. Can one dissolve the self?
Why are certain human beings entrenched in the myth of Jesus or Krishna?
Attachment destroys freedom. 
Where there is freedom there is joy. It is that quality of mind that has this sense of joy and freedom that perceives.
Meditation means freedom and joy to observe, without any attachment, without any partial perception.
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The Krishnamurti Collection is an official podcast by Krishnamurti Foundation Trust.
Across this wide selection of events, Krishnamurti explores fundamental questions of human existence that touch our daily lives and relationships. Each episode of the podcast features a full-length Krishnamurti recording from the Foundation’s archives, with a new series released every week.
Krishnamurti is widely regarded as one of the greatest philosophers and teachers of all time. For seven decades, he spoke to large audiences around the world, as well as with notable individuals and small groups. Krishnamurti stressed that ‘There is hope in humanity, not in society, not in systems, not in organised religious systems, but in you and in me.’
Established by Krishnamurti in 1968, Krishnamurti Foundation Trust is a non-profit charity based at Brockwood Park in the UK, which is also home to The Krishnamurti Centre and Brockwood Park School. To learn more about our activities and retreat programmes, and to donate, please visit: Krishnamurti Foundation Trust: kfoundation.orgThe Krishnamurti Centre: krishnamurticentre.org.ukBrockwood Park School: brockwood.org.ukNewsletter: kfoundation.org/newsletterDonations: kfoundation.org/donate
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